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The Two Tongues Podcast explores the most interesting topics that aren't "fit" for popular consumption (or polite dinner conversation). Here you will find honest, unfiltered and unedited conversation between two life-long friends on the state of the world as we see it; politics, religion, mind-altering substances, psychology and philosophy are fair game. Let the fun begin!
Episodes

Jan 9, 2026
Jan 9, 2026
1hr 6 min
In this episode Chris brings us Opinion Scholarship on the legendary Jesuit priest and anthropologist--Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. We explore his landmark book "The Phenomenon of Man" and through it his theistic (and yet heretical) model of evolution. We begin from the moment of Creation, from the Big Bang, and walk through the process of the universe up to the rise of mankind and his unique expression of consciousness. Then the fun begins! We explore Chardin's vision of the direction of evolution, the nature of consciousness and speculations about what the next stages of evolution will bring. Spoiler alert, it's God...the culmination of evolution is the actualization of the divine!
Enjoy ;)

Jan 6, 2026
Jan 6, 2026
1hr 55 min
In this episode Kyle and Chris discuss a recent interview between two British blokes--Andrew Gold and, self-proclaimed "ethno-nationalist," Steve Laws. They tie this interview to the growing popularity of similar personalities in the U.S., such as Nick Fuentes, and a growing social movement towards nationalism. They discuss the difference between so-called civic nationalism and ethno-nationalism, the obstacles to assimilation and the role genes play in the development of society and culture. Using the subject of genes as a segway, they end the show with a discussion of a bizarre genetic condition--alpha-reductase deficiency--which plagues a small tribe in the Dominican Republic called 'Guevedoces.'
Enjoy ;)

Dec 9, 2025
Dec 9, 2025
2hr 3 min
In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite with their mate across the pond--Daniel Torridon--of the Onion Unlimited Podcast. This one doesn't go quite as planned, when an off-hand remark about the Crusades unexpectedly ignites a tense discussion on politics, Christianity and propaganda. We cover political Islam, Christian morals as a social prescription, free speech and revisionist history. From a discussion of political manipulation, we move to the manipulation of social media algorithms and wrap up with a bit of speculation on the nature of spirit.
Enjoy ;)

Nov 24, 2025
Nov 24, 2025
2hr 11 min
In this episode Kyle and Chris reunite for an open and honest dialogue about the realities of cannabis and its effects, both positive and negative. Is it medicine, a slippery slope into psychological and physiological dependence or a mixed bag with plenty of grey area? They recount their experiences and hold nothing back. The conversation then turns to the topic of Islam and its cultural encroachment in the West. We discuss critical scholarship of the Quran and compare the examples of the Biblical Jesus to that of Muhammad. This topic wouldn't be complete without a critique of the political power games involved and the propaganda finding its way into the news and our social media feed. Strap in!
Enjoy ;)

Nov 10, 2025
Nov 10, 2025
2hr 13 min
In this episode Kyle and Chris interview author, Lisa Ekman, about her book Deprogramming Democrats & unEducating the Elites: How I Escaped the Progressive Cult. We begin with the biography of a typical American democrat. A middle-class upbringing; graduate degrees and a career in public service; a compassionate soul who just wanted to help her fellow citizen. But then...Lisa unravels her awakening experience where the scales fell from her eyes and she finally saw the dark truth behind the political machine she supported all her life. We ask tough questions and she gives honest answers. Strap in!
Buy Lisa's book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/iKR0Jvr
Enjoy ;)

Nov 4, 2025
Nov 4, 2025
1hr 7 min
**Re-publishing this one with improved audio**
In this episode Chris explores the ideas of the ancient Greek, Neoplatonic philosopher--Iamblichus--through his correspondence with an ancient Egyptian priest. Iamblichus does something no philosopher did before him, at least not to such a degree; he questioned religious orthodoxy, expressed skepticism about the legitimacy of religious ritual and sacrifice and even of the priesthood itself. Along the way, however, he's striving to understand the nature of the divine at the deepest level. It turns out, there was no better source for answers to religious questions than the Egyptian priesthood, who benefited from the oldest and grandest religious tradition in all of the ancient world. And what did Iamblichus learn? It's not at all what you'd expect.
Enjoy ;)

Nov 4, 2025
Nov 4, 2025
55 min
In this episode Chris delivers Opinion Scholarship on the origins of Judeo-Christian monotheism. He takes us through the archeological record, exploring the Canaanite religion of El and seeking the mysterious origin of Yahweh. The questions arise: Was the religion of El the same as the religion of Yahweh? and Was El the same god as Yahweh? From here we step into controversial territory as we explore the possibility that both Yahweh and monotheism come not from ancient Judea, but from the Indo-European tribes of Europe.
Enjoy ;)

Oct 6, 2025
Oct 6, 2025
1hr 7 min
In this episode Chris explores the ideas of the ancient Greek, Neoplatonic philosopher--Iamblichus--through his correspondence with an ancient Egyptian priest. Iamblichus does something no philosopher did before him, at least not to such a degree; he questioned religious orthodoxy, expressed skepticism about the legitimacy of religious ritual and sacrifice and even of the priesthood itself. Along the way, however, he's striving to understand the nature of the divine at the deepest level. It turns out, there was no better source for answers to religious questions than the Egyptian priesthood, who benefited from the oldest and grandest religious tradition in all of the ancient world. And what did Iamblichus learn? It's not at all what you'd expect.
Enjoy ;)

Sep 21, 2025
Sep 21, 2025
1hr 12 min
In this episode Chris engages with the ideas of author--Brian Cranely, in his book The Call of Wonder. He discusses the importance of the human experience of wonder and awe as a catalyst for opening one's mind to realities greater than oneself. He then moves to the Western philosophical tradition to trace how we have wrestled with the idea of 'greater realities,' leading to Plato's idea of forms and eventually to the realm of spirit as formulated in our religious traditions. Next, we trace the pedigree of the idea of God with a capital 'G,' beginning with Plato's idea of the Form of the Good in distinction to the gods of Olympus. From there we arrive at Aristotle's First Cause and start to pin down the qualities that such a thing must necessarily have--Unity, Eternity and Unknowability. From this basic pattern we arrive at the religious idea of the Image of God and describe how it is reflected in cosmology, biology and consciousness.
Enjoy ;)

Sep 17, 2025
Sep 17, 2025
1hr 25 min
In this episode Kyle and Chris reflect on the tragic death of Charlie Kirk. We discuss the state of discourse in the United States, the prevalence of debate over discussion and the slow progress of leftist totalitarianism and identity politics. We ask the question: How do we diagnose the cause of this new stream of anti-Western political violence? And after we're done licking our wounds, we ask: What can be done and what should be done to remove this cancer from our social body. We agree on one thing...that justice delivered to Charlie's killer is insufficient to prevent such things from recurring. More must be done. The public has expectations here from our leaders. Let's just hope they rise to the occasion.
Enjoy ;)
